Comments on: More Expletives from the Liberal Side http://www.iddream.com/2005/01/26/more-expletives-from-the-liberal-side/ Welcome to I'dDream.com, est. Nov 1999. Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:17:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Randy Bishop http://www.iddream.com/2005/01/26/more-expletives-from-the-liberal-side/comment-page-1/#comment-715 Randy Bishop Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:33:09 +0000 http://www.iddream.com/plete/?p=297#comment-715 Yeah, but when you really think about it there’s good reason it’s lighter.  The HMMWV must be “delivered” to combat areas by boat or air (therefore it gets dropped from planes).  If the Hummer were dropped from a plane it would be crushed under it’s own weight.  Also, there’s no dash, heated seats, insulation, headliner, carpet, air conditioning, power locks/windows, and whatever else “comfort” components are plugged into the Hummer on the HMMWV.  One of the challenges posed to the design team was to make a vehicle that could compete with the Jeep in mobility, transport, and diversity.  Making an 8,200 pound SUV probably wouldn’t have been successful. Here’s an awesome <a href="http://www.off-road.com/hummer/general/hmmwv.html" rel="nofollow">link</a> OffRoad.com maintains with info’ on the HMMWV. Yeah, but when you really think about it there’s good reason it’s lighter.  The HMMWV must be “delivered” to combat areas by boat or air (therefore it gets dropped from planes).  If the Hummer were dropped from a plane it would be crushed under it’s own weight.  Also, there’s no dash, heated seats, insulation, headliner, carpet, air conditioning, power locks/windows, and whatever else “comfort” components are plugged into the Hummer on the HMMWV.  One of the challenges posed to the design team was to make a vehicle that could compete with the Jeep in mobility, transport, and diversity.  Making an 8,200 pound SUV probably wouldn’t have been successful.

Here’s an awesome link OffRoad.com maintains with info’ on the HMMWV.

]]> By: Anthony Rochon http://www.iddream.com/2005/01/26/more-expletives-from-the-liberal-side/comment-page-1/#comment-714 Anthony Rochon Thu, 27 Jan 2005 20:20:34 +0000 http://www.iddream.com/plete/?p=297#comment-714 I assumed the specs of the Hummer were vastly different from its combat-ready cousin, but people DO buy it because it looks like the Humvee.  These are the same people who think of rush hour traffic as a war zone and drive as such.  It’s just so annoying that anyone would choose to buy one of these things when all they do is tool around town and run errands.  Ugh. It is amazing the civilian version weighs so much more.  You’d think that since the Humvee is an armored vehicle it would weigh more. I assumed the specs of the Hummer were vastly different from its combat-ready cousin, but people DO buy it because it looks like the Humvee.  These are the same people who think of rush hour traffic as a war zone and drive as such.  It’s just so annoying that anyone would choose to buy one of these things when all they do is tool around town and run errands.  Ugh.

It is amazing the civilian version weighs so much more.  You’d think that since the Humvee is an armored vehicle it would weigh more.

]]> By: Randy Bishop http://www.iddream.com/2005/01/26/more-expletives-from-the-liberal-side/comment-page-1/#comment-713 Randy Bishop Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:34:20 +0000 http://www.iddream.com/plete/?p=297#comment-713 The Happy Jack commercial is pretty cool though… The Happy Jack commercial is pretty cool though…

]]> By: Randy Bishop http://www.iddream.com/2005/01/26/more-expletives-from-the-liberal-side/comment-page-1/#comment-712 Randy Bishop Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:33:57 +0000 http://www.iddream.com/plete/?p=297#comment-712 The Hummer and HMMWV (pronounced Hum-Vee) are two entirely different beasts.  The Hummer was modeled to look like the HMMWV but that’s where the comparison stops. The Hummer is built on the same chassis as a few other GM large trucks/SUVs (I can’t remember which ones off hand).  So picking on it just because it looks like HMMWV really isn’t valid. The HMMWV is a combat vehicle weighing in at 5,200 (yes, lighter than the civilian product).  It’s powered by a Diesel engine which is submersible and has a chain driven transfer case.  The components of a HMMWV are geared completely different including better brakes, transmission, tires, and a driver compartment that can supposedly take on a landmine… Don’t get me wrong.  I think the Hummer is a waste of space, fuel, and just plain ugly.  But It’s no HMMWV. The Hummer and HMMWV (pronounced Hum-Vee) are two entirely different beasts.  The Hummer was modeled to look like the HMMWV but that’s where the comparison stops.

The Hummer is built on the same chassis as a few other GM large trucks/SUVs (I can’t remember which ones off hand).  So picking on it just because it looks like HMMWV really isn’t valid.

The HMMWV is a combat vehicle weighing in at 5,200 (yes, lighter than the civilian product).  It’s powered by a Diesel engine which is submersible and has a chain driven transfer case.  The components of a HMMWV are geared completely different including better brakes, transmission, tires, and a driver compartment that can supposedly take on a landmine…

Don’t get me wrong.  I think the Hummer is a waste of space, fuel, and just plain ugly.  But It’s no HMMWV.

]]> By: Anthony Rochon http://www.iddream.com/2005/01/26/more-expletives-from-the-liberal-side/comment-page-1/#comment-711 Anthony Rochon Thu, 27 Jan 2005 17:31:42 +0000 http://www.iddream.com/plete/?p=297#comment-711 You point is well-taken, Randy, but if you’re going to pick one to bitch about, the Hummer is the one to go with.  These vehicles were originally designed for combat situations and yet they’re marketed to yuppies who want their kids to feel “cool” when they get dropped off at school.  The thought of someone buying such an impractical vehicle when they could afford something far more sensible just makes me sick. That said, the “Happy Jack” Hummer commercial is totally rad!! You point is well-taken, Randy, but if you’re going to pick one to bitch about, the Hummer is the one to go with.  These vehicles were originally designed for combat situations and yet they’re marketed to yuppies who want their kids to feel “cool” when they get dropped off at school.  The thought of someone buying such an impractical vehicle when they could afford something far more sensible just makes me sick.

That said, the “Happy Jack” Hummer commercial is totally rad!!

]]> By: Devon Akmon http://www.iddream.com/2005/01/26/more-expletives-from-the-liberal-side/comment-page-1/#comment-710 Devon Akmon Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:20:32 +0000 http://www.iddream.com/plete/?p=297#comment-710 Ha, this thread just reminded me of something. At the Whole Foods here in Ann Arbor, some genius decided to create SUV shopping carts for kids (the kids sit in the front SUV portion, while the rents load up the cart with groceries).  It’s bad enough that the monster trucks damn near run me off the road, but it’s another thing when some ruthless mom damn near runs me over when I’m shopping for some organic corn (hehe)!  Here’s another one for you: “F$%K Moms and Dads Who Push SUV Shopping Carts and Almost Run Devon Over!!!” Those damn carts are too big for the crowded aisles. Ha, this thread just reminded me of something. At the Whole Foods here in Ann Arbor, some genius decided to create SUV shopping carts for kids (the kids sit in the front SUV portion, while the rents load up the cart with groceries).  It’s bad enough that the monster trucks damn near run me off the road, but it’s another thing when some ruthless mom damn near runs me over when I’m shopping for some organic corn (hehe)!  Here’s another one for you: “F$%K Moms and Dads Who Push SUV Shopping Carts and Almost Run Devon Over!!!” Those damn carts are too big for the crowded aisles.

]]> By: Randy Bishop http://www.iddream.com/2005/01/26/more-expletives-from-the-liberal-side/comment-page-1/#comment-709 Randy Bishop Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:04:32 +0000 http://www.iddream.com/plete/?p=297#comment-709 Maybe “F&%K cars, LOVE bikes!” That way we can nip the obesity and polution problems with one swoop. Maybe “F&%K cars, LOVE bikes!” That way we can nip the obesity and polution problems with one swoop.

]]> By: kimberleigh http://www.iddream.com/2005/01/26/more-expletives-from-the-liberal-side/comment-page-1/#comment-708 kimberleigh Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:00:31 +0000 http://www.iddream.com/plete/?p=297#comment-708 the most recent comments are about 3 weeks old.  i’m not sure why they’re nont coming up for you.  that’s weird. the most recent comments are about 3 weeks old.  i’m not sure why they’re nont coming up for you.  that’s weird.

]]> By: Devon Akmon http://www.iddream.com/2005/01/26/more-expletives-from-the-liberal-side/comment-page-1/#comment-707 Devon Akmon Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:52:20 +0000 http://www.iddream.com/plete/?p=297#comment-707 How about “F$%K You Detroit, Build Some Stinkin’ Hybrids, Already!!” How about “F$%K You Detroit, Build Some Stinkin’ Hybrids, Already!!”

]]> By: Randy Bishop http://www.iddream.com/2005/01/26/more-expletives-from-the-liberal-side/comment-page-1/#comment-706 Randy Bishop Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:50:11 +0000 http://www.iddream.com/plete/?p=297#comment-706 A lot of trucks get around 10 MPG.  And a lot of those same trucks are above the federal reporting weight limit.  Maybe the post should read F&*K Your Silverado, F-250, F-350, etc… A lot of trucks get around 10 MPG.  And a lot of those same trucks are above the federal reporting weight limit.  Maybe the post should read F&*K Your Silverado, F-250, F-350, etc…

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